Comments on: If you think It Could be a Scam….It Probably Is! http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/ Buy & Sell Real Estate - For Sale By Owner Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:10:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Sheila http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-2461 Sheila Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:30:53 +0000 http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-2461 We also were contacted by John Peterside regarding our fsbo listing. He indicated he was too ill to travel but had made arrangements though his finance company to set aside speical funds and as soon as we arrived the legal documents would process. They invited us to come out and sign the payment release order and also ofset the "none" residential tax/legal process charge of $15,587.00. (it was a typo in the email as none ...instead of non-residential). It was all a little to suspious as the bank did not pull up online at all; the e-mail address from the "international Payment officer" was from financialdeposits@bayern.org and it did not match the bank name and actually pulled up as an IT website in Germany. Buyers Beware! We also were contacted by John Peterside regarding our fsbo listing. He indicated he was too ill to travel but had made arrangements though his finance company to set aside speical funds and as soon as we arrived the legal documents would process. They invited us to come out and sign the payment release order and also ofset the “none” residential tax/legal process charge of $15,587.00. (it was a typo in the email as none …instead of non-residential).

It was all a little to suspious as the bank did not pull up online at all; the e-mail address from the “international Payment officer” was from financialdeposits@bayern.org and it did not match the bank name and actually pulled up as an IT website in Germany. Buyers Beware!

]]> By: Leslie http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-1008 Leslie Tue, 20 May 2008 18:30:27 +0000 http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-1008 I listed my house on the fsbo site, and was contacted by email ***** "John Peterside" I have Indicated Interest by this e-mail, I will like to see more pictures of this listing as well as to start negotiations on this property ASAP. Please e-mail me at \\\"summerstormer08@yahoo.com\\\" also I need to know if your the owner or Just an Name: John Peterside Phone: 5167408828 Email: summerstormer08@yahoo.com ********** I responded with questions for him, regarding whether or not he wanted to see the property, was an agent, etc. the next email I received was: ****************Thanks for your e-mail back to me, I work for Hsbc and I happen to be in charge of home/estate procurements for staffs and visitors of the company. We have 1 Family moving down for Network Expansion and so we have decided to procure a home for her and of course with proper financing from the Bank. I apologise for the vagueness in my first e-mail.Under normal circumstances I'm supposed to come down there to view this property myself ( as per our professional policy), but I think if you supply me with just enough Information and pictures I would not need to come down there as I have too many procurements to complete this Month,if there be a need i may send someone from my team. The most Important Information i would like to know about should Include. 1. Any Recent Modifications made to this house. 2. If you are the Owner or Just an Agent. 3. Year this House Was built. Get back to me at your earliest Convienience. Thanks John Again I answered the 3 questions leaving my contact info again. the next email was ****************Hi Leslie, To make this transaction and transfer fast since I have other business matters to attend to- I would need you to assist me here.I would need to meet with my superiors today as well as discuss with our staff and see what she thinks. I will be signing all documents and processing the financing as soon as she confirms her stand on the house. Please send me an E-mail again with these few Information. 1. Last Reduced Price. 2. We will be paying full in cash, we do not Intend paying any Earnest money Upfront. 3. Send me your FSBO listing number again. 4. Home full address ( should we need to set a time to come Inspect our selves.) Please get these to me ASAP. John ****** ok, now I'm suspicious..... and reply with, John, Please advise your company name, address and phone number, and the name of your superior so that I can verify your information with the company. Also, please email me with the resident's name, current address, direct telephone and position with the company. The information in the FSBO.com listing is accurate and up-to-date. No further information will be provided to you until you can authenticate your statements. Regards, Leslie crazy huh? I listed my house on the fsbo site, and was contacted by email *****
“John Peterside” I have Indicated Interest by this e-mail, I will like to see more pictures of this listing as well as to start negotiations on this property ASAP. Please e-mail me at \\\”summerstormer08@yahoo.com\\\” also I need to know if your the owner or Just an
Name: John Peterside
Phone: 5167408828
Email: summerstormer08@yahoo.com **********
I responded with questions for him, regarding whether or not he wanted to see the property, was an agent, etc. the next email I received was:
****************Thanks for your e-mail back to me, I work for Hsbc and I happen to be in charge of home/estate procurements for staffs and visitors of the company.

We have 1 Family moving down for Network Expansion and so we have decided to procure a home for her and of course with proper financing from the Bank.
I apologise for the vagueness in my first e-mail.Under normal circumstances I’m supposed to come down there to view this property myself ( as per our professional policy), but I think if you supply me with just enough Information and pictures I would not need to come down there as I have too many procurements to complete this Month,if there be a need i may send someone from my team.

The most Important Information i would like to know about should Include.
1. Any Recent Modifications made to this house.
2. If you are the Owner or Just an Agent.
3. Year this House Was built.
Get back to me at your earliest Convienience.
Thanks
John

Again I answered the 3 questions leaving my contact info again. the next email was ****************Hi Leslie,

To make this transaction and transfer fast since I have other business matters to attend to- I would need you to assist me here.I would need to meet with my superiors today as well as discuss with our staff and see what she thinks.

I will be signing all documents and processing the financing as soon as she confirms her stand on the house.

Please send me an E-mail again with these few Information.

1. Last Reduced Price.
2. We will be paying full in cash, we do not Intend paying any Earnest money Upfront.
3. Send me your FSBO listing number again.
4. Home full address ( should we need to set a time to come Inspect our selves.)
Please get these to me ASAP.
John
****** ok, now I’m suspicious….. and reply with,
John,
Please advise your company name, address and phone number, and the name of your superior so that I can verify your information with the company. Also, please email me with the resident’s name, current address, direct telephone and position with the company.
The information in the FSBO.com listing is accurate and up-to-date.
No further information will be provided to you until you can authenticate your statements.
Regards,
Leslie
crazy huh?

]]> By: Lorraine Salters http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-690 Lorraine Salters Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:17:20 +0000 http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-690 Beware of him.....he took info from web page and is trying to get me to send him an invitation to the USA so he can purchase the house for a second party. He does not want to deal with brokers, just homeowners Lori Beware of him…..he took info from web page and is trying to get me to send him an invitation to the USA so he can purchase the house for a second party. He does not want to deal with brokers, just homeowners

Lori

]]> By: Jennifer http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-146 Jennifer Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:58:25 +0000 http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-146 Here is th response I got - just as I thought. Sellers beware of Gary Nelson garry02nelson@yahoo.com Dear Friend, Thank you for your mail. Indeed I have accepted your price . I will make a deposit of $30,000 to you for the property.I have made out a certified cashiers check of $38,000 then the balance of $8,000 is for my broker for her trip to the states for property inspection and other necessary renovation and welfare.So you're required to deduct the deposit of ($30,000) and send the balance of ($8,000) to my broker for her trip to the states and other necessary arrangements . Therefore kindly mail me back because i am satisfied with the price of your property.The remaining balance will close within 30 days of my brokers arrival and all the paper work will handle by my broker Please Confirm this and provide the following information of the owner for the payment :- 1. Your Name 2. full contact address 3. phone/fax number As required for check payment to be delivered direct to you,this is for security reason,again that am paying directly to you in person and for easy communication b/w both of us. Regards Garry Nelson. Here is th response I got - just as I thought. Sellers beware of Gary Nelson garry02nelson@yahoo.com

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your mail. Indeed I have accepted your price . I will make a deposit of $30,000 to you for the property.I have made out a certified cashiers check of $38,000 then the balance of $8,000 is for my broker for her trip to the states for property inspection and other necessary renovation and welfare.So you’re required to deduct the deposit of ($30,000) and send the balance of ($8,000) to my broker for her trip to the states and other necessary arrangements .

Therefore kindly mail me back because i am satisfied with the price of your property.The remaining balance will close within 30 days of my brokers arrival and all the paper work will handle by my broker Please Confirm this and provide the following information of the owner for the payment :-

1. Your Name
2. full contact address
3. phone/fax number

As required for check payment to be delivered direct to you,this is for security reason,again that am paying directly to you in person and for easy communication b/w both of us.

Regards
Garry Nelson.

]]> By: Jennifer http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-145 Jennifer Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:28:49 +0000 http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-145 Here is an email from a scammer I just received...I did reply and will post his response separately... From: garry nelson Dear Friend, Thank you for your mail,Indeed I believe first to secure the property through a deposit before any arrangement is to be made because of some other interested party.I am impressed with the property ,I should love to call you to discuss with you but am on a field assignment in Costa Rica and would like to know the followings about your property:- 1. Your bottom price 2. How many owners? 3. Insurance certificate if any? 4. When did you buy the property and why do you want to sell it? 5. The property and the ownership is on whose name? Finally,I would like to know your last price ,if your price is ok then I can arrange for a deposit while my agent will call you to arrange for the property inspection and other necessary renovation if any will be taken care of by her. I awaits your earliest reply Regards Dr. Garry Nelson. garry02nelson@yahoo.com Here is an email from a scammer I just received…I did reply and will post his response separately…

From: garry nelson

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your mail,Indeed I believe first to secure the property through a deposit before any arrangement is to be made because of some other interested party.I am impressed with the property ,I should love to call you to discuss with you but am on a field assignment in Costa Rica and would like to know the followings about your property:-

1. Your bottom price
2. How many owners?
3. Insurance certificate if any?
4. When did you buy the property and why do you want to sell it?
5. The property and the ownership is on whose name?

Finally,I would like to know your last price ,if your price is ok then I can arrange for a deposit while my agent will call you to arrange for the property inspection and other necessary renovation if any will be taken care of by her.

I awaits your earliest reply
Regards
Dr. Garry Nelson.
garry02nelson@yahoo.com

]]> By: John Masters http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-131 John Masters Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:43:12 +0000 http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-131 Once again I have found a good post of yours Once again I have found a good post of yours

]]> By: LC http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-88 LC Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:24:32 +0000 http://blog.fsbo.com/if-you-think-it-could-be-a-scam%e2%80%a6it-probably-is/#comment-88 We have had our property listed on FSBO for a few months now, but over the holidays I was receiving e-mails from an "interested " party who had a broker, etc. Today I receive another e-mail. Our home is listed for $569,000, he offered to send us $30,000 for a down-payment and then we would send his "broker" $8,000 of that back for broker fees, etc. I have been wondering since the initial e-mail if this was a scam. I work for a national corporation in customer service and too many red flags were popping from the fraud investigation I do. I e-mailed "Joshua Penn" back that I was not interested, no transaction, and probable fraud. Should be interesting to see his reply (if I get one). We have had our property listed on FSBO for a few months now, but over the holidays I was receiving e-mails from an “interested ” party who had a broker, etc. Today I receive another e-mail. Our home is listed for $569,000, he offered to send us $30,000 for a down-payment and then we would send his “broker” $8,000 of that back for broker fees, etc. I have been wondering since the initial e-mail if this was a scam. I work for a national corporation in customer service and too many red flags were popping from the fraud investigation I do. I e-mailed “Joshua Penn” back that I was not interested, no transaction, and probable fraud. Should be interesting to see his reply (if I get one).

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